ISSUE Nº20: INTERVIEW MILAUNA JACKSON
JULY 26, 2025
The Power That Comes from Within: Milauna Jemai Jackson’s Inner Artistry
By Ashley Paintsil
"I [had] to put a period on that self-doubt," Jackson says. "If I don't believe in myself, then why would anybody else really believe in me? Why would anyone else really feel like I'm capable of being in the position that God destined for me?"
- Milauna Jackson
"Greater is He in you, than He's that's in the world" is a phrase one could use to describe Milauna Jemai Jackson's inside-out approach to her craft as an actress. From World War Il battlefields to primetime courtrooms, the seasoned performer has consistently delivered powerful onscreen portrayals. The Chicago-born actress, known for her commanding presence, currently shines in Tyler Perry's Netflix film, "The Six Triple Eight," a remarkable true story depicting the U.S. Army's first all-Black, female battalion. Jackson stars Kerry Washington in the film which boasts a stellar ensemble including Oprah Winfrey, Susan Sarandon and Sam Waterston and has garnered critical acclaim, including an NAACP Image Award nomination for Outstanding Motion Picture, with Jackson herself recognized as part of the nominated Best Ensemble Cast. This journey, however, hasn't been without its hurdles, as Jackson herself identifies self-doubt as a significant challenge she has had to confront by cultivating self-belief. as Jackson herself identifies self-doubt as a significant challenge she has had to confront by "I [had] to put a period on that self-doubt," Jackson says. "If I don't believe in myself, then why would anybody else really believe in me? Why would anyone else really feel like I'm capable of being in the position that God destined for me?" This isn't Jackson's first foray into compelling narratives with Tyler Perry; she previously captivated audiences in "A Jazzman's Blues," which also earned NAACP Image Award nominations for both Outstanding Motion Picture and Best Ensemble Cast after its premiere at TIFF.
ASHLEY PAINTSIL: Please tell the world how you pronounce your beautiful name, so we know how to say it?
MILAUNA JEMAI JACKSON: Yes, thank you. It is Milauna Jemai Jackson. My mom and my grandmother actually created my name, Milauna. My mother was going to name me Milani. My grandmother did not like that. She felt like she wanted my name to resonate-to have a resounding, powerful effect when people heard it like, Lola Falana. That's how they came up with Milauna. I always remind people it rhymes with sauna. Then Jemai-the same kind of creative licensing that my mom had with my first name, applied to my middle name, which is a combination of my father's middle name, James, and my grandmother was Josie May, so it was like, "Jamie." She kind of just rearranged the letters. That's how it became Milauna Jemai. I always have to say this, when people ask about my name-the creator of Kwanzaa, his name is Maulana Karenga, and that's the first time I've ever seen my name in a way that made me recognize that there has to be a meaning behind it. I looked up Maulana Karenga, and Maulana means great leader, great teacher. I hope to exhibit that.
AP: It seems like you were raised by very creative and strong people. How did that affect you growing up, and how has that been infused into your life and work today?
MJJ: I was raised on the South Side of Chicago with my mom as a single parent, my dad actually lived in Los Angeles. That's where my parents met, and after my mom returned home, I began a life with my maternal side. I grew up mainly around my mom's people, my great grandmother, my mother, my grandfather's mother. That's what influenced my life, and I definitely know that's what I lean on. That's where derive my strengths from-my elders. My grandfather was the male figure in my life, and my great grandmother. I will say, what l've learned from all of those dynamics is how blessed I am, because a lot of people don't really get a chance to have a relationship with their grandfather and then their grandfather's mother. I wasn't as close with my grandmother, but I did get that wise, sage advice about ife. I received a lot of lessons that helped me in this industry regarding integrity. All of them were proponents to family and community. Chicago is a segregated city-I grew up in a community on the South Side where it really was about the village raising the child. In my family, a lot of my cousins were raised with the intergenerational makeup. My mother often took care of my cousins, or took care of my cousins' children, and then [ there was] the same dynamic with my great grandmother. She was very active in the lives of her children's children. All of that influenced me to have, not just pride in my culture, but pride in myself, pride in being a woman and being dignified. In spite of circumstances, how to how to be in a position of authority yet being a great support system for people who are also in authority, because that's a true dynamic-that leaders can support as they lead. All of those components are key to the makeup of who I am today, and particularly in this industry, because you [have to] know who you are and your people.
AP: Did you always know that you wanted to do acting-how did that materialize for you?
MJJ: I did. My cousin always likes to tell the story that I told him when I was three that I was going to be a star, and I don't remember that exact conversation, but I do remember the conversation that I was going to do that. I just remember saying, "I'm going to do that." I don't know what made me see I was going to do that. He was the first person in my family to remind me that I created this path by acknowledging from the beginning that I had a right to not just do it, but to proclaim it. A lot of times we forget the power of words. My mom was very instrumental in reminding me that people were going to want to know what I have to say and need to believe me. She reminded me of the value of integrity. That is where I started, and then I learned commitment from my high school teacher. Her name was Ms. Munkus. She was the first person that I had met who really understood what it means to be an artist-an actor in Chicago, where you don't, maybe, have any connection to the entertainment industry. You only have the stage and then the few productions that will come to Chicago at the time. You might be blessed enough to get a small part in a film, and that was her life. She was in The Fugitive with Harrison Ford, so it was very exciting to be able to see somebody teach you something, and now to be on the other side of someone that's actually in a position to teach other people. Just like she committed her life to teaching, I commit my life to teaching others about the things that portray on camera, on screen, on stage or in my in my interviews. After high school, I went to Howard University. My high school, Curie High School, had a performing arts program, and drama was my major. You're talking bare bones education. In terms of the arts, most people go to conservatories, or they'll go to some kind of arts program on a collegiate level or on a graduate level. I just went straight to work. I took classes. I took tons of classes. I've studied with tons of teachers. My most recent teachers I have worked with [are] all about the truth, which is what I love, and that's Susan Batson and Carl Ford. I did that during the pandemic because I do like to stay in this position to be malleable for the next opportunity. That means you always have to stay active and working on your craft, just like your body, if you want to be fit. Your body is the instrument, so you have to keep it in a specific space to be able to adjust creatively, so that's having movement and being very comfortable in my body. Just like I work out my body, I work out my mind, and I feel like I learned all of those things from Chicago, because that's where I was raised, but it was also encouraged from these classes that I took. I also work on my voice. I spent some time working with Denise Woods, who is a dear friend of mine today, but we met on film set A Jazzman's Blues -my introduction to her on a on a professional level, and she taught me the value of having power in my voice, and how instrumental that is in the world, not just in entertainment, not just as a performer, not even just on stage, but just in life, when you're connecting to people, when you want to project an ID, an idea or an ideology, committed to, I imagine, from day one.
AP: It seems that you have an inside out approach to your life and your career. Some people, will do things hoping that is going to give them the skills or the ability to be who they want to be or do what they want to do, and they work from the outside and hope that affects who they are inside, but as you're talking, what's in here is propelling you to do what's out there. How have you come to that approach?
MJJ: It took me some time, Ashley, because they say, if you are doing something and you're not seeing the results, maybe you should alter what you're doing, right? I did start from an external perspective. I did think that I could figure this thing out-the climb to success externally, and that means external validation-your appearance. It's like, "I'm only going to work on how I how I present myself to the world," and my mother was not about that. My mother was about who you are as a human being, if you are beautiful within, it'll always radiate. It will always be reflected in the eyes of other people who see you. That's my programming, so to speak, or my foundation. I just make a concerted effort to remind myself of how I can do that as an adult woman. As a kid, you are trying to figure it out. In high school, my mom was volunteering in my school one day, and she said she saw me coming down some stairs in the hallway, and she was like, 'I didn't even recognize you. All I saw was this glow, and I was like, "Oh my God, who was that?" Then it hit her. She was like, "That's my daughter." I didn't know my mom was going to be there. I had no idea. The last thing that I expected, was that she was going to tell me that, and I didn't even know what that meant. I spent years of my life hiding that-dimming my light, and thinking that I could shine externally. Again, that comes usually with awards, or with some sort of benchmark that you see as a marker for success, and none of that matters. If you're working externally then that's what you're focusing on, but if you're working from an internal perspective, there's depth. It'll stick with people, and it'll also make you feel good, no matter what the outcome is, no matter what people say. It's like planting a seed. You just know that if you're planting a seed, you have the faith that growth is possible. The people in my life-my elders, my nuclear family, my extended family-they planted these seeds in me. What you see are the results of those seeds. This is those seeds coming into fruition. I like how I feel working internally first and then showcasing it externally. As opposed to the other way-I feel like that led to a lot of darkness and depression and doubt, because I'm looking outside of myself as opposed to living inside of myself.
AP: You wrote in a post on Instagram: "In remembrance of Captain Abbie Noel Campbell. Portraying you taught me stellar resilience and reminded me to cherish my sensitivity. It's worth a king's ransom, always honoring you and your divine contributions." How did you prepare for your role as Abbie in "The Six Triple Eight"-what was it like portraying a real-life figure?
MJJ: It's a dream come true to play a real-life heroine. That's what these women were. That's how I see Abbie. She is a trailblazer. She is also a Hall of Famer. How cool is it, for a woman to be able to play a Hall of Famer? Usually, men get that opportunity to play a Hall of Famer because [they're] playing a sports hero. This was not that at all, and I appreciated that I prepared for her very intentionally. I didn't think that I was going to get this role because I auditioned for another role in the film, and when I didn't hear anything back about that role, I assumed that it was done. It was over, and I found out I gotten the offer for the role of Abbie, and the first thing that I wanted to do was not just apply the information that helped me audition for the original role, because any role that I get, any project that I have, I read a the script as if it's available, because it's not always available. This script was available for me, so I read the script, but I also wanted to read Charity Adam's [Earley] book, [who] was Abbie's best friend. Abbie didn't tell her story. She wasn't able to get out what her experience was like in the US Army, but her best friend wrote a book, and she spoke about how instrumental she was to helping her through this journey. I know what that's like. I have been very honest when it comes to my love for the craft, but also honest about not knowing anything about the women of the Six Triple Eight. So, I would watch documentaries. I would see photos. I would add a story to the photo that I could find of Abbie and her brother. They both were commissioned officers. I'll give you an exclusive-I forget to mention this to people, but I also prepared through music. One of the things I love about what I do as an artist is that it's not just confined to the film and the television world. I get inspiration from museums. I like to create playlists for each project. That's been this ongoing thing for me to help keep me in the mindset of what I'm doing and remind me on hard, long, exhaustive days, what can motivate me to go back. I would watch war films. I would watch a lot of period pieces-films that were set during the 40s, not just modern-day films that they make in the 40s, but films that would come out in the 60s, that were set during World War II. I just love the research part. Because I already done that, when I had the original audition for the very first character that I went out for, I applied that to Abbie, and then I would do the work that I learned along the way, and that is honoring that person and seeing her as a multi-dimensional character, and not just a woman here with a mission, which is to help her best friend, but to be a supportive best friend, but also a brilliant soldier-a standing officer. My character was almost a hybrid. There was another woman. Her name is Mary [Francis] Kearney. She's in a few of the pictures that are now infamous with the Six Triple Eight. She would follow Charity. Whenever Charity was addressing the soldiers [in] the front line, Mary was behind Charity-Abbie was doing something else. I needed to be sure that I could also follow Charity in that way, although it's not the same exact thing that Abbie would have done in the real story, but the beauty of cinema is where creative license comes in. You can alter things to support the story that you want to tell, to be able to play Abbie, but also be able to showcase the skillset of this woman, Mary. I prepared for that by asking for help. Honestly, one of my cast members, Jeante [Godlock], is the only person in the main cast who actually served in the military. I asked her to help me with the commands-to help me figure out why I'm saying what I'm saying. Debbie Allen, and, Quay, who was our military advisor, were instrumental in getting our lines together and helping us march. I would rehearse on my off time, on the weekends, in my hotel room, in a conference room, on my balcony, wherever I could, and practice the things that did not come natural to me, because I'm a girly-girl. The military [was] trying to recruit me, and at the time, I was like, 'I'm going to be an actress and a doctor,' because I like to help people. I love helping other people, so the only way I thought that you could do that was by being a medical doctor. I was like, 'I'm not interested in joining the military.' You're committing for life, and I just didn't want that kind of commitment, but I needed to portray someone who did believe in that commitment. All of those things are what helped prepare me for it.

AP: You were talking about how you had to support the lead character. Talk to me about what it takes to be a good supporting actor, because sometimes when you hear about these films, they mention the big names and forget about the foundation and the pivotal role that supporting actors play. So, talk to us about, what it took to be the best supporting actor and how to do it with grace and embody that role?
MJJ: Oh, wow. Well, I've learned from reading memoirs of women who have been trailblazers, that the best leader knows how to follow. The best leaders understand that it's community efforts that get us to our finish line. I have honed that skillset within my career, being a supportive wife in a lot of the roles that I've played, being a supportive girlfriend or mom. I've played young moms. I've learned how to do that in life. I'm a big supporter of women, I'm a big supporter of Black businesses. I'm a big supporter of even myself. I feel like what was different this time is to not fade into the background because I have to command. There are scenes where Kerry's [Washington] not in, where it's solely resting on me to sell the narrative to create the moment. There's a scene where we're marching through Birmingham, andI am walking on a decline, on cobblestone road. This is actually something we didn't really rehearse, and I knew I could do it because I had been so supportive in the other scenes that I was like, "Okay, now is my time to lead. Now is my time to be in a position of authority," and knowing that I was deserving of that position, because I've worked so hard, not just in my career, but in my life, to lead. I think that there is some pressure when you are in the leading position. My name, as I said, is great leader. I spent a lot of years figuring out what that means. What does it mean to be a great leader? I do feel like a lot of that is asking for help when you need it, and that's also how you can be a great supporter. If I'm saying words that I don't believe or I'm not really connecting with, then how can I be a great support system to anybody? I also have to remember that I am playing a real woman who went through a lot more than I've ever had to experience because I didn't go through the military. We know what obstacles exist within that kind of system, and she was able to do it. These women were able to do it. They were younger than me, and they had the faith in themselves and the actual confidence to believe that they were capable of doing it, and I feel the same way about myself. One other thing 'Il say in terms of making the transition of being a strong, supportive actress while still being a leading lady is-Chadwick Boseman was a friend of mine, and he was a first person in this industry to say, "You are the hero of your own life. Milauna, you are your own leading lady. You don't need to wait for a role to dictate what position you need to play in life, you could choose to play that position yourself." I've never forgotten that. I've never released that, and I do believe that was a key component to our friendship. This was before he was [a] leading male actor. This was pre 42, before he was a writer and a director. I met Chad because I auditioned for him, and I auditioned as the leading lady in his film that he wrote, and we continued to communicate with each other on a friendly level, and that was one of the key things that just stuck with me. Those are the kinds of moments that I had to lean on to get me to do what you all see in this film. AP: What would you say [is] one of the biggest challenges you faced in your career-how did that affect you and how [did] you overcame it?

MJJ: The biggest challenge that I had to face is self-doubt. I [had] to put a period on that self-doubt. If I don't believe in myself, then why would anybody else really believe in me? Why would anyone else really feel like I'm capable of being in the position that God destined for me? I always say, I know that everything happens for a reason, but with this particular film, the reason will surface after I'm gone. It won't be immediate. It's going to take some time. It's resonating with us, because we're Black women. We're seeing it from a completely different standpoint. We've never seen anything like this in any film. I've never seen a film that had Black female soldiers. I've seen Black nurses. I've seen White nurses. I've seen the woman loving her husband or the father of her child at home, and then he's on a mission. The fact that I was privileged enough to play this character, at this time, is ordained. So, I can't really question the process, I just have to trust it. Another big lesson that I learned in this business is to trust the process. What does that mean? That means not rushing to the next moment. That was big for me. I would do a project-I'll be very transparent-even with this one, I was like, "Okay, great, I did that. Okay, what's next?" Because I did that two years ago, and I have not worked on another project. I have not accepted another role since Abbie. So, I was in a rush to get to the next moment, as opposed to trusting the seeds that were planted, again, allowing the time of harvest to come when it's supposed to. When fruit is ripe, it's best. You can't rush the growth process. You can't rush to get to the finish line, because there is no finish line-death is the finish line. I know that I'm not going to live forever. I know at some point, I too, will transition from a living body to a spiritual being. The reality is if I'm trusting that all things take time, it may be five years, it may be 25 years. It may be 2.5 years. Who knows? Only God knows that. I am a true believer in God, I am a true believer in my faith, and I'm also a true believer in what I'm capable of. A lot of the times, you don't know what you're capable of until you're challenged. That's why trusting the process helps you to prepare for the challenge, because I know that if I can overcome this obstacle, that I'll be better on the other side, but I'll also have the development and the growth for the next challenge. These are the things that I've learned in this business. I've also learned to believe that this is not a one-man show. A lot of people feel like there is something to saying, "I did this all by myself. I succeeded. I'm self-made." It's not the case. Somebody helped you. I have teachers, I have influencers, I have mentors, I have friends, I have family. Even those who are not allies, they may see me as a foe, [but] they have benefited me to recognize that I have something that they don't like, and if they don't [it's] because it comes easy for me. The one last thing I'll say is, everybody is not your friend. A lot of the people that you work with are coworkers, and that's okay, too. I don't have to feel like in order for me to succeed, I have to have an army of people that have my back, when, honestly, I only need One. You know, the Word says when two or more come together, God is present. So, I only need One. It was a time where I thought I needed a whole tribe. It was a time when I believed that, if I didn't have an army behind me-855 women behind me-that I couldn't succeed, I couldn't be motivated enough to get past this threshold of pain when the reality I have my mom. My mom is one of the biggest not just cheerleaders, but supporters in my life. She's always told me that no matter what I did, and I'm going to be very honest, she was like, "I don't care what you choose to do. If you choose to do anything in life, you don't be average. You don't be mediocre. You go you be the best you can be. You strive to be the best." That's the kind of cheerleader you need in your life. The fact that I have that is really something that's helped me in this business. That's enough.
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